It Ain’t Rocket Science

“It AIN’T rocket science!” (just in case you missed the title above…)

[Originally published on MySpace on October 20, 20101.]

You know, it HAS occurred to me to wonder if each of us is born sporting a brush dipped in ignorance and fear with which we go around painting each other into nightmarish caricatures, as if that’s easier than just paying attention even for five damn minutes.

Is it?  Come on, people!  I think the following is actually a legitimate question, and we should ALL take a moment, spread our little blankies on the ground, and seriously consider:

Why can’t everyone just be NICE?

Here’s an even better question:

How CAN everyone just be nice?

Take a shot at one or both.  Line’s open.

Love yas.

Thea

“I love everyone and you’re next!”  ~ I have no idea who originally said this, but it sounds good to me.

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30 Responses to It Ain’t Rocket Science

  1. Thea says:

    “Problems should be solved by those who see them.” Oh. Crap, I need to clean off my desk, then.

    Posted by Thea on October 20, 2010 – Wednesday – 6:47 AM

  2. Thea says:

    Denese:

    SHE/HE STARTED IT!

    That’s one reason people can’t be nice. Humans are opinionated assholes who always want to be “right.”

    Nice is often ineffective. Lord Chaimberland tried to be nice to Hitler. Wasn’t a good plan, at all.

    “Nice” is in the eyes of the beholder. I may try to state my opinion perfectly nicely, and yet some will still take offense.

    There are times when it is actually immoral to be “nice.” Jesus dealing with Pharisees and money changers in the temple wasn’t “nice.” In fact there were times when he was impatient, and not particularly “nice” even to his disciples.

    So when we see a “wrongness” such as the butthead who posted that tasteless video on my blog, we shouldn’t be nice. We can attempt to be courteous, but people being what they are, sometimes inflamed emotions are appropriate.

    “Nice” when it is passive/aggressive is bullshit.

    All that being said, I am in favor of nice as a general concept for human relations. When at all possible, we should walk that mile in each others shoes, take feelings into consideration, and love way more than we hate.

    That is all I have to say about that right now. Need more coffee. Much more.

    Posted by Denese on October 20, 2010 – Wednesday – 6:59 AM

  3. Thea says:

    M. TERESA CLAYTON:

    Like minds…. I find the “I’m right/You’re wrong” syndrome makes everything sick. Wouldn’t it be nice to have an opinion but leave your mind open to accept new information that should be considered and perhaps even adopted for a bit into our process? Women change their minds all the time. We do get use to it and it doesn’t seem to hold the same power over us that it does for many men (a generalized statement, I know).

    Our Monday Night chats always shine a new light on what I once thought was and now find is still becoming.

    When people get together with their paint and brushes – would be nice to allow everyone to add their own bits of color to the canvas and create a beautiful thing that belongs to everyone.

    Told my girls, as they grew up, never dismiss an idea that is different than your own… the universe is always informing you – always take the time to consider a new piece of information, and remember that this new piece may not fit yet but in a few years may make perfect sense to you. It is all communication… a dialogue – not a monologue.

    Blessings to you Thea.

    Posted by M. TERESA CLAYTON on October 20, 2010 – Wednesday – 7:26 AM

  4. Thea says:

    Just Jeff:

    INDEED

    Posted by Just Jeff on October 20, 2010 – Wednesday – 8:37 AM

  5. Thea says:

    ROBERTOelDRAGÓN&IDYs!:

    SOMETIMES, I NEED TO SEND THIS TO A SOUL; I HURT. MAY BE A TRIFLE, BUT, IT’S A SINCERE ONE? SEEMS, TO WORK, BUT FOR THOSE, GENERALLY, FOR WHOM, I HAVE HAD TO DECIDE TO NOT CARE ABOUT. THOSE ARE, THANKFULLY -FEW- ! BUT ONE IS TOO MANY?
    ANYTIME: PLEASE KNOW; I’D NEVER “HURT” YOU? SEEMS; I HAVE? PLEASE TALK w ME? DON’T DO ANOTHER THING, TILL WE -DO- GET A CHANCE, TO TALK? I HAVE LOST A FEW (THAT’S TOO MANY!) FRIENDS, bc WE NEVER CLEARED UP A MISUNDERSTANDING! I will, always, attempt, to do the following, but, NOT, always, succeed? When, unhappy things, escape me, before, I’ve given, sufficient, thought, to the consequences, please “talk“?
    “What is Said, & Can Be What is, so Often, NOT Meant”
    My words, I must, not, toss about.
    My words, I will, now, choose.
    With consideration, for their affect;
    They, should, have on others; I would NOT abuse.
    I, may not go, sparingly, with them;
    Neither; will I spend them, like a fool.
    I will use them, as wisely, as my intent, should, decree;
    To make; rare, the, hurting, exception. And, love, the, common, rule!
    {T-GEE © 9/08}
    IDY! THOMAS aka RtD YOU KNOW, 23 TIMES(?), THE “D” IS “DIG” AND THE WHYS, SO NUFF SAID? TOO MUCH, PROLLY? HAAA

    Posted by ROBERTOelDRAGÓN&IDYs! on October 20, 2010 – Wednesday – 1:10 PM

  6. Thea says:

    jcmmanuel:

    Good questions. But the question is also: what is being NICE? Is it the equivalent of being COOL? And being cool could (not: should) be the equivalent of what people in the past were usually calling ‘lukewarm’. That is certainly one kind of nice. But that would also be the kind of thing that so often doesn’t want things to CHANGE, because change is dangerous. For a change, you may more often need people that aren’t exactly ‘nice’.

    I’m not offering plain answers or so. But I guess one can be always good and yet not always be nice. One can be always loving without always being experienced as ‘lovable’ – not all the time.

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm….

    Posted by jcmmanuel on October 20, 2010 – Wednesday – 1:34 PM

    • Thea says:

      Blogged the comment below in a new blog, as threatened. *grin* “And Another (Nice) Thing”

      Posted by Thea on October 22, 2010 – Friday – 10:16 AM

    • Thea says:

      Nice. (LOL!!) Ya jumped right on the trick in the question, which is also what I consider to be the entry point (or one of them) into a discussion: What is “nice?”

      (Just a quick note: the following assumes a general audience)

      A little back story: I first heard the question “why can’t everyone just be nice” from my Mom. She was screeching it at the top of her lungs (of course she was, just so you know this about her). And it wasn’t because someone had just cut in front of her in the grocery line or anything–to her, such things were manageable, you either opened your mouth and said something, or you decided it wasn’t worth the effort and let it slide. Which is pertinent, but I’ll get to that in a sec. What Mom was howling about was some kinda major social injustice (I don’t remember which one, I was pretty young at the time), but the message to me was it’s wrong to fuck up other people’s lives in favor of entirely your own. In order to make sense of this, over time I learned that whereas there are ways I like things to be in my own personal little world, yet I have significant flexibility–a margin for error, if you will–in allowing for “overlap” from other people and their lives. There are things I’m not willing to tolerate, of course–but even those things I find I often have the patience to work toward them with others, rather than ramrodding my agenda down the offending party’s throat. NOT that ramrodding should be taken out of the tool box entirely–sometimes it can be effective, but it IS a blunt instrument, and as such can create “collateral damage,” which may or may not be visible at the time the instrument is used (meaning whatever you did, it’ll come back to bite you in the ass later on, even if only in terms of the realization that you hurt the person you ramrodded in some way additionally to the original problem).

      Kay, so far we have a coupla things: a) it’s wrong to insist upon your own way all the time. That’s pretty much Basic 101, right? b) There is significant flexibility to be found within your own world that can allow for the “imposition” of other people’s worlds. c) It is possible to work with others to resolve problems. The assumption is that you AND the other person both have valid points of view, and this is regardless of whether or not the other person thinks the same thing (sorry, I added that on here explicitly–it was only implied in the paragraph up above). d) I suggested there are a number of ways to do this (resolve problems), and gave as an example (of last resort, granted) ramrodding. e) I also suggested, again using the ramrodding example, that there will be consequences for whatever it is you do, so, of course, you need to take that into consideration.

      Here’s a couple of freebies: f) If the problem is complex, try breaking it down into smaller, more manageable bites, OR, try adding a little dimensionality to the problem to see if there might be a kind of “end run” solution. g) Pick your battles. I have mentioned before the idea of hanging something on God’s hook. Too, you can “agree to disagree” temporarily, and come back later to work on the problem when conditions are more amenable to problem-solving. h) Get help from others. Sometimes the more “objective” view of an outsider to the problem can shine a light on the landscape of possible solutions that you weren’t at first able to see.

      There are of course a lot more things that can be done. For problems on a large scale, for instance which involve entire social systems, there’s going to be a limit to what any single person can do. At this point, you’ll need to engage in collaboration of some kind with others, and you may need to be willing to do a bit of hoop jumping. Still, and as I have said before, within certain gross limits the landscape of possibility for human endeavor is infinite. Creativity, innovation, imagination, patience–all these things go in to solving problems.

      I’ve mentioned this before, too: How you think and what you do has an effect. On everything. By the same token, what others think and do has an effect on everything, including you. This is a dynamic, meaning it’s a whole mess of action, reaction, and results that happen over and over again, influencing and being influenced by each other, leading to the creation of meaning and consequences. So, you matter right from the get go.

      We still need an entry point into all of this, right? Assuming everyone agrees that being nice is important (oh come on, folks! You know damned well it’s important!), do we have a means of entering into “niceness” that everyone can do, no matter who they are, or what the circumstances might be? I’m not sure, but try this on for size (which I’ve ALSO mentioned before):

      Not a one of us has the right to deprive any others of their humanity, regardless of the provocation. If what you decide to do to solve a problem doesn’t tread on this idea, I’d say you’re good to go with whatever solution you’ve come up with. If it DOES, then I’d say maybe work your solution a little more.

      Does this mean don’t do anything that might cause the other party to feel hurt? No. Just make sure that hurt is not harm, and be prepared to back up and start over, or else mitigate what hurt occurs. Ooooh, did I just suggest something about commitment? I think I did! Winding back to the person cutting in front of you in the grocery store line: what’s it worth to ya? If you decide to object, be aware that this is a commitment to a relationship with another person, and you need to be ready to follow through with it. If you decide to pass up this relationship, then take responsibility for that decision, and don’t paste your resentment on that other person thereby (which, incidentally, is the underlying dynamic of passive aggression).

      Another way of putting this has to do with respect. Which, if you think about it a little, is actually a species of love taken as attitude, eh? And not just respect for others, of course–doing JUST that will simply drain you dry. Respect for yourself, respect for yourself in relation to others, respect for others in relation to you, and respect for others as equally intrinsically worthwhile human beings even as you are.

      In other words? Focus on solving the problem. Do NOT focus on getting even. The first is nice. The second is not nice.

      Okay?

      (yes, I’ll probably blog this, thanks for reminding me–LOL!)

      Posted by Thea on October 21, 2010 – Thursday – 8:26 AM

  7. Thea says:

    Deborah ~ ♥ “Erekamka Na Adonai” ♥:

    “…it HAS occurred to me to wonder if each of us is born sporting a brush dipped in ignorance and fear with which we go around painting each other into nightmarish caricatures…”

    I think, not born with the brush but handed one then provided the paint color/s those in authority wish us to use, albeit parents, grand parents, teachers, religious leaders, whoever…

    If we’re lucky, we’ll be permitted or provided unlimited colors in order to expose our vulnerable brains/minds to variety without bias. Allowing each of us to enjoy and appreciate the diversity of our world and everything/everyone in it, while adding color of our own to the larger painting/picture. Thus having the extraordinary advantage and benefit of remaining teachable and open to new things without fearing that which is different.

    Sometimes we are fortunate enough to recognize our colors are ignorantly restricted and chose to break into the paint box to access the full range.

    Too many are unlucky.

    Why can’t everyone just be NICE?

    Why can’t people be nice??? There’s a multitude of reasons but that doesn’t make the act of not being nice, right.

    The act of not being nice may not be as simplistic for everyone as making the choice to be or not.

    The inability to display genuine care, concern, compassion and to be nice, not to mention to sincerely love, is often the result of past occurrences and experiences, environment, background, etc. We can’t just tell people to get over it when they hold deeply embedded obstacles in regard to human interactions and behavior. There’s usually more to the process of overcoming hindrances, (fear, anger, resentment, etc.), than someone saying, “You need to change your ways” or having our shortcomings pointed out to us!

    Then of course, there are those who aren’t nice because they just don’t want to be, it suits them to be “unfriendly”, (one of the gentler terms). There is power, greed, ambition, wealth and a multitude of other motives for not being nice. The pay off for being nice may be less appealing than for not being. Being nice is often not conducive to getting ahead, coming out on top, winning the “race”. And trampling others is a case of have to in order to attain, a mere byproduct.

    Then there are times it isn’t beneficial to be nice, say…when someone is willfully inflicting harm, pain or hurt on an innocent or anyone for that matter. It may be difficult to nicely step in and say, “Cut that crap out.” A bit of assertiveness bordering on aggression may be required to end an assault.

    Ahhh…the reasons are endless.

    How CAN everyone just be nice?

    Excellent question…I don’t believe it can be done, actually, sadly. BUT…that doesn’t keep me from hoping, desiring and advocating for!

    I believe you’re quite nice, Thea, thank you for challenging us to think 🙂

    Posted by Deborah ~ ♥ “Erekamka Na Adonai” ♥ on October 20, 2010 – Wednesday – 2:04 PM

    • Thea says:

      ROBERTOelDRAGÓN&IDYs!:

      Ahhh…the reasons are endless. I THINK (BUT, “WHO AM I?” IS A GIVEN.) THERE ARE FAR MORE REASONS TO BE NICE. @ LEAST, I TRY (NOT ALWAYS, BUT AMAP.) TO OPERATE UNDER THIS ASSUMPTION. BUT, THERE, AGAIN, BEGS THE ? “WHO AM I?” Bc THE WORLD (AND, NO ONE, IN IT?) DOESN’T DANCE TO MY, EVERY, SONG. BUT, PERHAPS, THIS IS NOT SUCH A BAD THING? I DUNNO! COINCIDENTLY, I, JUST, USED THE FOLLOWING; ELSEWHERE. BUT, IT’S, NO LESS APPLICABLE; HERE? “The nature of things is in the habit of concealing itself”-Heraclitus of Ephesus
      “ONE CAN DECIDE, TO ALLOW LIFE, TO TRICKLE ABOUT HIM, wo A DROP MOISTENING HIS SOUL. BUT, IN THE INUNDATIONS, OF LIFE AND ITS MARVELS, A SATURATION, IN HAPPINESS, MUST BE! IDY, MRS. PRATER! TOMMY GEE (RtD) >=~:

      waterfalls

      Posted by ROBERTOelDRAGÓN&IDYs! on October 21, 2010 – Thursday – 12:26 AM

      • Thea says:

        Deborah ~ ♥ “Erekamka Na Adonai” ♥:

        Is “WHO AM I?” a given? (I don’t feel comfortable or qualified to question what you’ve stated, but…in this I feel I must. Feel free to question what I provide as well 😉 ).

        Can we say without any doubt, “I know exactly who I am!”?

        How many times do we have our position of “I know myself” challenged resulting in having to come to terms with we didn’t know ourselves nearly as well as we thought we did?

        Do we not often think we have particular views, morals and beliefs, think we’re relatively solid in them only to have them challenged or tested resulting in a greater understanding of self? (And that may or may not be a pretty picture but self actualization is ongoing).

        Realization by trial reveals to us that who we think we are may not in fact, be “who I am“…really!

        Most humans are ever changing, evolving, adapting creatures…the pace of change varies from individual to individual but it would be hard to deny or dispute that change does occur, (even the fighting against change will alter a person).

        The “WHO AM I?“ may be a good deal better than we gave ourselves credit for or a great deal worse than we believe or desire.

        For me, the “WHO I AM” is perhaps no more a given than predicting the sun will shine every day and rain will never come. Each day I wake up a little different than the day before, sometimes greatly altered.

        Mayhap it’s a mistake to firmly assert that who we are is a given under circumstances we have little or no control over.

        I can be nice to the end of the earth so long as nothing comes along to “rock my world” challenging my ability to be so. (Threaten or harm my child and see how fast “nice” 😡 is heaved out the window!)

        I honestly believe it would be a huge deal harder to be nice if daily I faced debasement from people I came into contact with, (homeless persons face this relentless reality).

        One would have an exceedingly difficult time being nice when continually dealing with an onslaught of demeaning judgment based on lack of home/employment/stability.
        Just an example, there are many better ones.

        How many have found themselves a “door mat” for others based upon their unwavering characteristic of being nice regardless? Are people’s responses to others not altered based upon how they are received by others? Nice people are oft times easy targets.

        All this would make it seem as though I don’t support the assertion that being nice is a positive quality and one we should all subscribe to. Not so.

        I only wish to point out that although “THERE ARE FAR MORE REASONS TO BE NICE”, some persons find themselves near totally void of the ability to be so not due to personal choice but based upon the treatment they’ve received at the hands of people who are most definitely not nice.

        I believe each of us has a personal responsibility to ensure that we behave “nicely” to everyone as much as physically and emotionally possible for us.

        Making excuses in an attempt to justify being mean, cruel, cold or uncaring is sad and pitiful, perhaps even disgusting.

        However, the nice response would be to provide the aforementioned persons the benefit of the doubt and not return slight for slight, cruelty for cruelty.

        Each of us should determine to be nice but…there will always be unexpected and little anticipated adversities that may greatly test our ability to remain unwaveringly nice.

        “ONE CAN DECIDE, TO ALLOW LIFE, TO TRICKLE ABOUT HIM, wo A DROP MOISTENING HIS SOUL. BUT, IN THE INUNDATIONS, OF LIFE AND ITS MARVELS, A SATURATION, IN HAPPINESS, MUST BE!”

        Lovely statement/sentiment, very much so!

        IDY, ~ 2 🙂 ~ TOMMY GEE (RtD) >=~:

        Posted by Deborah ~ ♥ “Erekamka Na Adonai” ♥ on October 21, 2010 – Thursday – 7:15 AM

        • Thea says:

          (Pardon me for cuttin’ in, Tommy. Psst, Deborah! I replied to your post here in a new blog, “It’s a Temporal Life.”)

          Posted by Thea on October 22, 2010 – Friday – 9:40 AM

          • Thea says:

            ROBERTOelDRAGÓN&IDYs!:

            ALWAYS! AND, DEAREST THEA? NO NEED TO, EVEN, ASK!
            “WHEN, I ANTICIPATE IT; MOST, IT COMES. BUT, IT (THE MIGHT, OF YOUR FRIENDSHIP!) AFFORDS ME, VAST & EXULTANT JOYS, STILL; SURPRISING ME, BACK TO MY BLISSFUL INFANCY!” IDY! TOMMY GEE (RtD) >=~:

            Posted by ROBERTOelDRAGÓN&IDYs! on October 22, 2010 – Friday – 10:09 PM

          • Thea says:

            Deborah ~ ♥ “Erekamka Na Adonai” ♥:

            How cool is that?! 😀

            I’ll be checking it out soon…gotta pay bills, catch up on a few things and complete menial household chores and tasks…thank you for notification!

            Huge hugs… 🙂

            Posted by Deborah ~ ♥ “Erekamka Na Adonai” ♥ on October 22, 2010 – Friday – 9:58 AM

            • Thea says:

              ROBERTOelDRAGÓN&IDYs!:

              b4 I REPLY, 1. WOW! SIZE, SCOPE, INSIGHTS, AND WHOLELOTTAMORE! SO, I’M OUTRIGHT STALLING, bc IT’S LATE, OR, MORE ACCURATELY, I’M TIRED, AND IT FEELS LATE. [I JUST HAD A -DEAR- FRIEND, ON ANOTHER SOCIAL SITE I WON’T NAME, BUT ITS INITIALS ARE “FACEBOOK”, (AND, ACTUALLY, AS TO THE FRIEND THE “DEAR” APPLIES -ANYWHERE- ! SO, FORGIVE MY TIRED LAZINESS, IN NOT REORDERING THOSE WORDS?) MISAPPREHEND MY UTTER ADMIRATION (NO, I WAS NOT OGLING COWS!) AND JOY, IN THE, MUCH LIKE THIS, DRAGON-DUG EXCHANGE OF OPINIONS AND OTHER INFO! IT TOOK ME BY COMPLETE SURPRISE, AND IT ALSO TOOK ME A LOTTA AGATE-DIGITED TYPING, TO MAKE, I HOPE, IT FULLY CLEAR, THAT NOTHING, BUT MY ESTEEM AND RESPECT WAS, EVER, INTENDED. SO, LIKE A WWI FRENCH TRENCH, BULLET MONGER; HAVING, JUST, ENDURED AN YPERITE ATTACK, I’M GASSED? <- AND STRETCHING MORE THAN A SMALL "FIFI'S" SILK STOCKINGS, ON A COW'S TOOOCUSS? *LORD! NOW, WHERE WAS I, IF EVER, I WAS? OH YA! DONE, TILL THE NEXT MISH MASH OF WORDS; I DARE TO CALL A SENTENCE!*] 2. I'M POOPED! 3. I WOULD SAY IT A 3rd WAY AND TIME, BUT THEA MAY DELETE THIS AND/OR ME! *JOKE! THEa IS A PRINCESS!* **WAY TOO OBVIOUS SUCK UP ALARM!** AND, 4. I NEED TO REST/SLEEP, IN ORDER TO GIVE, MY MEAGER AND FAR TOO SHODDY, FORM OF JUSTICE, TO YOUR, INSIGHTFUL AND APPRECIATED, WORDS.
              NOT TO PRY, BUT, YOU'RE MARRIED, YES? NP! LET'S SAY, YOU AND I GO TO OUR RESPECTIVE HOMES, AND GET A BATHING SUIT AND/OR ANYTHING ELSE, THAT WILL MAINTAIN THE PURITY OF OUR INTENTIONS, AND TAKE A DIP, IN THAT INVITING LIL WATERFALL LAKE UP THERE…^ ? THINK; IT WOULD SNAP ME BACK, TO MY NORMAL SELF! UMMMM? WHO, SEEMS, STILL, ALWAYS, TO BE TIRED? OK! YOU GO. I'LL WAIT, HERE AND SAW WOOD? THEN, I WILL BE AS PREPARED TO ATTEMPT TO SUPPLY SOME SENSIBLE, TO SOME DEGREE, ANSWER TO YOUR SO WORTHY OF BETTER, REPLY?
              ENJOY YOUR SWIM, MRS. PRATER, AND TTYS?
              – ASIDE: ODD? I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER THE HIT, OR THE FOOBAWL GAME; I WAS PLAYING! BUT, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER SYMPTOM, OF MY BRAIN SPRAIN? *G B O R HONORABLE MENTION, FOR THE LONGEST, NON-ANSWER, ANSWER, SINCE BART STARR'S MONKEY REPLIES TO HIS SEXUAL HARASSMENT ACCUSATIONS!*

              Posted by ROBERTOelDRAGÓN&IDYs! on October 21, 2010 – Thursday – 8:33 PM

              • Thea says:

                jcmmanuel:

                Size? The Size of Nice?

                Posted by jcmmanuel on October 22, 2010 – Friday – 12:46 PM

              • Thea says:

                Deborah ~ ♥ “Erekamka Na Adonai” ♥:

                b4 I REPLY, 1. WOW! SIZE, SCOPE, INSIGHTS, AND WHOLELOTTAMORE!
                I’m wondering if what you mean is…Good Lord, can’t she keep it short?! *wink*
                Excuses…excuses but, since it’s YOU, I’m gonna accept them graciously, (nicely), with the personal knowledge and understanding that sometimes it takes some diligent, determined thinking to efficiently and effectively convey what is meant.

                Well, I just checked…my profile information states: married, I have rings on my left hand ring finger, and there’s a marriage certificate framed on my shelf…I guess that answers it, I’m married. Pry away…maybe between the two of us, we’ll get the lid off.

                “… AND TAKE A DIP, IN THAT INVITING LIL WATERFALL LAKE UP THERE…^”
                Nope, nope…nope! I hate to admit this but…I’m not much on getting in the water unless it’s for hygiene purposes. I may stick my feet in, dangle them over the side of the pool, wade into the ocean…that sort of thing but…it takes some real convincing to get me to submerge myself. Additionally, I can’t swim, I panic when I can’t touch bottom and down I sink.

                Jesting aside, I hope you rested well and feel greatly refreshed today. 🙂

                Posted by Deborah ~ ♥ “Erekamka Na Adonai” ♥ on October 22, 2010 – Friday – 10:42 AM

                • Thea says:

                  ROBERTOelDRAGÓN&IDYs!:

                  MY (<- IRONIC? HAAA) DEAR MRS. PRATER! YOUR (PARTIALLY COPIED, FOR ABUSE OF ITS, MORE DEFINING, CONTEXT) ANSWER, HERE? "…I have rings on my left hand ring finger, and there’s a marriage certificate framed on my shelf…I guess that answers it, I’m married."
                  WHAT YOU HAVE, ON YOUR FINGERS, TOES, OR, OTHER, FAR -MORE- INTERESTING PLACES, AND, WHAT IS ON YOUR SHELF; A FAR -LESS- INTERESTING PLACE, JUST NOW, NEEDN'T, EVEN, HAVE BEEEEN SO GRACIOUSLY TOLD TO ME? TO BE BLUNT (AND, THE DRAGON HOPED, AS HE WROTE THIS; MORE OBVIOUSLY, TONGUE-IN-FIRE-PROTECTED-CHEEK, "FUNNY"? <- AN UNATTAINED DRAGON HOPE, FOR CENTURIES; BY ITSELF!), YOUR INFORMING ME, WHO YOU HAVE OR, TOTALLY -NOT- SUPPOSED, DO NOT, ON YOUR MATTRESS, WOULD INDICATE; HOW MUCH DIFFICULTY, THE DRAGON WOULD HAVE, HELPING, TO KEEP THIS "LID" ON THIS "KETTLE OF MATRIMONIAL FISH", AS WAS ASSUMED; HE WOULD NEED TO?
                  I, PRETTY MUCH, AS w NON-BATH WATER AND YOUR … (=~:

                  Posted by ROBERTOelDRAGÓN&IDYs! on October 22, 2010 – Friday – 10:04 PM

  8. Thea says:

    Deborah ~ ♥ “Erekamka Na Adonai” ♥:

    I feel a public apology is in order as my “jest” may not have been taken as I intended. I’m assuming with this statement as it’s unclear to me, due only to my own faults and shortcomings, whether offense was felt or not.

    As I posted my comment publicly, I will also post my deepest, most sincere apologies in the same manner.

    I was poking at self when I wrote: “ Well, I just checked…my profile information states: married, I have rings on my left hand ring finger, and there’s a marriage certificate framed on my shelf…I guess that answers it, I’m married.” My ability to be stereotypically “blonde” is amazing and mind boggling, (no offense intended toward any blondes),…it would require a high level of “clueless” for one to have to find proof they were married in order to know or not. That was the jest I was aiming for but seems I missed.

    I’m sorry Tommy, very much so, if my comment came across as rude, crass or unkind, I didn’t intend that in the least.

    Thea, readers/those commenting, I ask you also to forgive my lack of proper and appropriate conduct and for any offenses caused.

    Thank you very much…Love and blessings…

    Posted by Deborah ~ ♥ “Erekamka Na Adonai” ♥ on October 23, 2010 – Saturday – 4:14 AM

    • Thea says:

      Actually, Deborah, I think you’ve just given us all a shining example of how to go about being “nice,” eh? *grin* Don’t sweat it; I am not offended.

    • Thea says:

      ROBERTOelDRAGÓN&IDYs!:

      HEY! DEBORAH? -ALL- I DID WAS LAUGH, w YOUR TERRIFIC “STUFF”! OR, ALSO FEEL PRETTY DAMNED GOOD ABOUT YOUR TAKING THE TIME AND CARE TO HAVE FUN -WITH- ME! MY ANSWER TO YOURS HAD TO HAVE NOT DONE, NEARLY AS WELL, IN CONTINUING THE PURE FUN! SO, I NEED TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU! AND,. IT’S BEEN A WHILE NOW, SO I DOUBLY APOLOGIZE, FOR ALLOWING YOU TO LABOR UNDER -ANY FALSE- IMPRESSION; I WAS NOT FLATTERED AND MADE TO SMILE, LAUGH, AND ONE POOF DID SLIP OUT DURING THE FORMER, SO, YES, FLATULATE TOO! (OK. LASSSS ONE IS A FIB! HOPE THAT LIL PROB WAS LOST @ AGE 4 OR 5 AND NEVER ENCORES! HAAA) IT MAKES ME UPSET @ -ME- TO SEE; YOU TOOK WHAT I -ONLY- MEANT AS HUMOR AND APPRECIATION, AS MY(?) BEING INSULTED OR ANYTHING CLOSE!? AND, IF, AS I PRAY, YOU SEE THIS AND THINK,. “THAT’S VERY NICE!” OR CLOSE? THEN KEEP ON HAVING @ ME,. AND NO MORE APOLOGIES OR SUCH!? YOU ARE A SWEEETEEE! AND NOTHING; YOU DO LEADS ME TO NOT THINK THIS;MORE AND MORE! GUT ME? YA BETTER! HAAA
      THIS WAS A BIT OF A SHOCK AND I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE SO LONG TO SEE IT!
      AND, bc I HAVE NO MORE WORRY, AND I CAME BACK TO TRY TO PUT SOME HODGEPODGE OF AN ANSWER ATTEMPT TO DEAR THEA, I DO REMEMBER, AND NOW, FOR PROOF OF MY FAITH IN YOUR, NOW, COMPLETELY KNOWING; I LOVED YOUR REPLY, I HAVE A TEENY AMENDMENT, THAT I NOTICED, AND WANNA CHUCK A FASSSS FYI HERE, ABOUT? I NEVER SAID, OR MEANT TO I “KNOW MYSELF”? ONLY, IN THIS CASE, THAT I KNOW; WHO I AM NOT? OH! AND YOU DIDN’T MISS w YOUR HUMOR, ONCE AGAIN! DIRECT AND GREAT HIT! JUSSS KINDA SAD (FOR ME, ONLY!) YOU -ARE- HITCHED? HAAA I -AM- THE DRAGON?!

      Posted by ROBERTOelDRAGÓN&IDYs! on October 26, 2010 – Tuesday – 5:04 AM

      • Thea says:

        Deborah ~ ♥ “Erekamka Na Adonai” ♥:

        For me to chose not to have fun with you after the smiles you’ve provided would seem a senseless and exceedingly unkind act and decision on my part.

        However, I could not, woud not have felt even the slightest amused if I had caused you upset or offense in jest or otherwise.

        An apology is a meager thing when one understands the possible outcomes and results of not saying “I’m sorry”. I would never chance the loss of a dear friend over not having accepted responsibility for a slight I’d caused then proceeded to make amends.

        “AND, IF, AS I PRAY, YOU SEE THIS AND THINK,. “THAT’S VERY NICE!” OR CLOSE? THEN KEEP ON HAVING @ ME,…”

        I did actually think “very nice” when I read this response. Additionally, I rolled my eyes at your “fib”, so like a man to speak of flatulence and flatulently in public,~~~~~~~~~~ (no offense intended toward anyone ~ SERIOUSLY).

        I am saving the last part of the above quote for future reference…
        I can then say, honestly and without a hint of sarcasm *wink*, “Well, YOU said, “ THEN KEEP ON HAVING @ ME…!”

        I’m not a sweetie, really, once you get to know me better…but far be it from me to ask, insist or force you to alter your views, (especially when they‘re in my favor)!

        “I HAVE A TEENY AMENDMENT, THAT I NOTICED, AND WANNA CHUCK A FASSSS FYI HERE, ABOUT? I NEVER SAID, OR MEANT TO I “KNOW MYSELF”? ONLY, IN THIS CASE, THAT I KNOW; WHO I AM NOT?

        Now…this I can agree with!

        Thank you Tommy, you’ve been a most kind and tolerant DRAGON, I appreciate your gestures deeply.

        Love and blessings, always…

        Posted by Deborah ~ ♥ “Erekamka Na Adonai” ♥ on October 26, 2010 – Tuesday – 12:27 PM

  9. Thea says:

    GayChristian:

    Caricatures make people feel safe, especially when their world view is crumbling.

    Posted by GayChristian on October 24, 2010 – Sunday – 8:46 PM

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